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Dedefox  

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IS IT REALLY A TIME FOR ‘JUST’ TALKING?

Journal Entry: Tue Mar 25, 2008, 3:09 AM
A little souvenir from our talk show in March 23rd, A New Generation of Cergam: Futuristic Era

I’ll not talk about sci-fi things here, which were already been spoken in our Sunday event. I’ll not talk about Dark Venus, K.O.A, or Deviant too, as probably anyone who read this might already knew them. I’ll talk about what was happened there, while we sitting down and listening to our elders’ discussion.

We invited our elders (we described them as comic analysts, or reviewers, or perhaps historians, or maybe teachers) to come down in our event, and talk about futuristic and sci-fi genre in comic. At least that was our expectations. But I think we’re unlucky.

One more time, I said, as this repeatedly have been discussed over and over again, our elders ‘whining’ about Indonesian new generation of comic artists. Our hope is they’ll talk a little more gently about us, but they didn’t (Well, one of them did after all, but I think it wasn’t heal the damage). The others (as I said to my fellows) have mortars, bazookas, and…very large ‘bowie knife’. They shot at us, the stab us, and they made us pork chops. They said our new comics are some kind of ‘low products’, and they compared us with foreign artists. They praised our art skills, but then they discouraged us by downgrade our stories and concepts into, say ‘cat litters’.

Well, I’m not exactly mad at them, because I knew I couldn’t compare myself with their intelligent, and I admitted they have bigger brain, but I was very…disappointed.

As elders, they should have been wiser, as people always said that our tongue might sharper than sword. Instead of just whining, they should guide us. That was the real function of teachers and elders.
When they’ve read all those books they’ve been said (books by Verne, Camus, Kafka, and others-these are expensive books in Indonesia, believe me, unless you got them in free e-books, or get ‘lucky’ by found them in street market), and in our younger age we might only have read Herge, Urasawa, or Mine’s book (cheaper books, you can get them with discounts), they should lend us their strength. That’s not just by mad at us, but they should came down from their throne, get a grasp of our disadvantage in time, money and facilities, and rethink why we can’t produce a comic as good as they want. As my fellow has said: ‘I believe our comic artists can make a great story, but as they must sharpen their art skills, did they have time to read all those profound books? Did they have enough money to buy those books, or even to stop producing and let their hands grip and their eyes stare at them for months? If, and if only somebody rich enough as them elders, could lend them money to do those researches…’

And sure, they said to us, we should cooperate with professional writers. I agreed. But will they (writers) truly want to come to us as they saw this comic industry in Indonesia have no ‘great’ benefit? Will these elders truly want to jump into the mud and help us?

Now, one thing that we can do is ‘whining’ back to them, elders, this way:

‘We might not have those privileges as these elders have, but at least we didn’t just sit back and read. We raise our hands to draw; we spin our brain to tell stories. We didn’t just keep our thoughts for ourselves, we share them to others, whether they liked it, or not.’


Note: Conditions has been mentioned above refers only in Indonesia


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  • Reading: Into Thin Air - Jon Krakauer
  • Watching: Appleseed EX Machina
  • Playing: Shadow of the Colossus

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  • Current Age: 28
  • Current Residence: Indonesia
  • Interests: Entertaining Stuffs
  • Favourite movie: Ghost in The Shell, Appleseed
  • Favourite band or musician: Harry Gregson-Williams, Hans Zimmer, Utada Hikaru, BoA
  • Favourite genre of music: Classic, Instrumental and Pop
  • Favourite artist: Shirow Masamune
  • Favourite poet or writer: Riki Cahya
  • Favourite photographer: Orion Photography (I hope it still exist)
  • Operating System: Windows 98
  • Shell of choice: Fav shell? Motoko Kusanagi yech yech
  • Favourite game: Samurai Warrior

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~tkaksoy:icontkaksoy: 3 days 13 hours ago
real cool gallery....:)

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~monochromewinter:iconmonochromewinter: 3 days 19 hours ago
Watch balik yah kk... :-) Nice gallery. Aku ud bc loh mayana na... Nice!!! good job!!!

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~mellowgellowdi:iconmellowgellowdi: 4 days 12 hours ago
waoooo
mayana y
vol 2 nya kpn terbit??
aku watch y
hehe..^^

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~kalong:iconkalong: 5 days 10 hours ago
wah keren punya ni...mantabbbb..
*sorceressmyr:iconsorceressmyr: May 4, 2008, 12:00:57 PM
makasih yah dah di watch.. :D

galeri situ mantebs2 sekali.. dan ternyata yg ngarang Mayana yak? ^^'
belom sempet baca sih, tapi penasaran juga :D

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~harliskudo:iconharliskudo: Apr 25, 2008, 6:56:55 AM
whaaw...makin keren aj karya2nya^^....
mana nih buku ke 2 nya^^
hehehe
*ClearMirrorStillH20:iconClearMirrorStillH20: Apr 22, 2008, 5:08:25 PM
:iconclearmirrorstillh20::iconfaveplz: you have an awesome gallery!

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~ucok-zs:iconucok-zs: Apr 21, 2008, 12:41:29 PM
Chris Lie :
DA id : :iconchrislie:
Web site : [link]

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~yumeoibito-chan:iconyumeoibito-chan: Apr 21, 2008, 2:53:17 AM
Dedefox knal sm Chris Lie g?
Tau id DA nya g, kk?
Jgn2 kak Dedefox seangkatan sm Chris Lie jg? Atau adik kelas?

Link penerbit luarnya kyknya keren tuh, k! ^^ Siapa tau bs coba.

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~Froitz:iconFroitz: Apr 21, 2008, 1:03:43 AM
Wow, keren man!!

hallo ,salam kenal
gallerynya keren abis !!
~jjxenon:iconjjxenon: Apr 20, 2008, 5:55:32 AM
Thanks for :+devwatch:

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~L33z:iconL33z: Apr 19, 2008, 6:54:18 AM
hey Mas, you know what! im so happy! i think im going to sydney this october, wish me luck!

i've always been thinking and feeling good about it just because i want it so much.

hows your days, hope u are doing great always! by the way, wish u all the best with your next comics, it'll be great! i know it will!

and for the elders, ah... dont mind them, a great comic elder is a person that is wise enough to support and inspire young 'comicers' to grow up and unleash their true potential. if they spoke the way arround, it means they are not that great, at all. they're not worth it enough to inspire you all, you all need greater role model ;)!


GOODLUCK

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~Goretoon:iconGoretoon: Apr 16, 2008, 8:56:29 AM
good work dude.

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~Dedefox:iconDedefox: Apr 10, 2008, 4:51:39 AM
sip!

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Mayana 01 is still in stores. Check it out!
*Twilight-Chronicles:iconTwilight-Chronicles: Apr 9, 2008, 8:26:08 PM
numpang lewat, saya watch yah ^^ ~
~ucok-zs:iconucok-zs: Apr 8, 2008, 9:52:00 PM
Se-keren mungkin?... Hmm... Lu liat aja ntar... Hehehe... :)

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~Dedefox:iconDedefox: Apr 8, 2008, 9:32:32 AM
And of course, u can watch me. Thanks! :hug:

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Mayana 01 is still in stores. Check it out!
~Dedefox:iconDedefox: Apr 8, 2008, 9:30:26 AM
Ok, ur welcome! :D and sorry for pretending u to be malay people :P

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Mayana 01 is still in stores. Check it out!
~ucok-zs:iconucok-zs: Apr 8, 2008, 9:24:25 AM
??!!!... Gila lu!

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~Dedefox:iconDedefox: Apr 8, 2008, 8:55:15 AM
gw udah daftarin NBPD ke list cergam yg bakal dipublish via kcb manyala he3. Kita kudu bikin ni cergam se-keren mungkin Cok! ;P

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KARYAMU KEREN OY (Indonesian slank for "U have nice artworks")

Mayana 01 is still in stores. Check it out!
~Aridima:iconAridima: Apr 8, 2008, 5:35:00 AM
wow!! Thank you so much for the watch, friend!:hug: I am going to watch you to if you dont mind :)
btw sorry i am not malay i just live here lol
~ucok-zs:iconucok-zs: Apr 7, 2008, 8:15:50 AM
Mungkin ntar butuh tenaga toner / raster...

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~Dedefox:iconDedefox: Apr 4, 2008, 4:49:26 AM
Ur welcome, and thanks! :D :hug:

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TERIMA KASIH (Indonesian words for "Thank you")
SENANG BERKENALAN DENGANMU (Indonesian words for "Nice to meet you")
KARYAMU KEREN OY (Indonesian slank for "U have nice artworks")

Mayana 01 is still in stores. Check it out!
~Dedefox:iconDedefox: Apr 4, 2008, 4:47:46 AM
Makasih! Thanks for stopping by, and for the courage! :D

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TERIMA KASIH (Indonesian words for "Thank you")
SENANG BERKENALAN DENGANMU (Indonesian words for "Nice to meet you")
KARYAMU KEREN OY (Indonesian slank for "U have nice artworks")

Mayana 01 is still in stores. Check it out!
~diamantestudio:icondiamantestudio: Apr 3, 2008, 8:51:48 PM
Salut buat komiknya! Tetap semangat bro!^^

(Dante & Sai)